Francesca Thyssen-Bornemisza hosts this conversation that departs from her and José Luis de Vicente’s report on their participation on the official working sessions at COP25. This conversation addresses how art is an active tool for fighting climate change.

Participants: Francesca Thyssen-Bornemisza, Founder and Chairwoman TBA21; José Luis de Vicente, curator and researcher; Alexandra Daisy Ginsberg, artist; and John Gerrard, artist.

On the occasion of the Climate Change Conference @cop25_madrid from December 2 to 13, 2019, artists explore the impact of climate change. Ten years ago, in 2009, Darya von Berner created in Madrid “Universal Cloud Flag” a white flag of minute water drops, like the clouds that nourish and sustain life. Shortly after she carried out this idea that she patented, manufactured, and installed it in front of The Peace Palace in The Hague in 2012. The cloud flag was emitted from the top of a steel mast, using fog pressure to spray water in suspension into the atmosphere.